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  • Rebecca Watson wrote a new post, Dead Sea Scrolls Bought by Hobby Lobby are FAKE, on the site Skepchick 2 months ago

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    Transcript:

    The Museum of the Bible has admitted to being the victim of a massive fraud: […]

    • Hi, Rebecca:
      First post. I wanted to mention the reason that MotB (aka Hobby Lobby) revealed that their scroll fragments were fake was because they had to. According to several news reports (including The Economist), they exibited their collection in 2017 and immediately raised suspicions; several fragments were found to be fake by Germany’s Federal Institute for Materials Research. They submitted the whole bunch to Art Fraud Insights, LLC for testing. The director, Colette Lott stipulated as part of the contract that AFI would have control over testing and would publish the testing results and make them known to the public.
      The report discusses how the fragments were doctored to appear genuine and how examination showed that some pieces may have been ancient shoe leather. The 214-page report is full of photos and geeky details and the biographies at the end should be an inspiration for anyone going into the fields of archeology or ancient manuscripts.

    • Just saw your video on Dr Richard Carrier.
      Carrier is a piece of work who needs to be brought down.
      He is not only arrogant towards women, but to men too.

      I am an Atheist who claims to have found Jesus in the historical record. My (well-researched) book upsets Christians because my Jesus is a warrior king, and it upsets Richard Carrier because he says Jesus is mythical.
      Jesus, King of Edessa

      Richard Carrier’s response to my reasoned arguments, is to call me “clinically insane” on his ‘Free Thought Blog’. (Not much freedom of thought there…)

      He said:
      … It is devoid of facts and logic. It is, in a word, insane. All further comments trying to defend this insanity will be deleted.
      … Ralph Ellis is another crank (indeed, IMO, genuinely insane).
      … That’s insane. And I mean that seriously. This is paranoia, a form of insanity.
      … (I re-posted as Rod Elliot, as I was deleted from the blog by Carrier, for expressing my Freedom of Thought…!)

      Oh, Jerry Russel was also insane, as were Joe Atwill and Stephen Campbell.
      In fact everyone posting on this blog was insane, except for Carrier…

      Richard Carrier’s Free Thought Blog…

      Atwill’s Cranked-up Jesus


      … (do a search for ‘insane’.)
      … (this archive has managed to delete every ‘y’ for some reason.)

      If this tirade by Carrier is useful in defending anyone against Carrier’s lawsuits, then please let me know. It certainly exposes Carrier’s general demeanour and behaviour. Jerry Russel and Joe Atwill might agree to assist too, as they are not exactly enamored by Richard Carrier.

      Cheers,
      Ralph Ellis

      Incidentally, Richard Carrier says:
      The only Jesus the Talmudic rabbis know about died half a century before
      Romans even arrived in Judaea (the only Jesus known in the Talmud was
      killed circa 75 BC)

      Richard Carrier is a respected professional historian, yet he is totally unaware that Jesus is mentioned in the Talmud on several occasions.
      For instance, from Sanhedrin 43.
      Quote: On the eve of the Passover Yeshu the Nazarene was hanged … With Yeshu however it was different, for he was connected with royalty.
      Quote: Our Rabbis taught: Yeshu had five disciples, Matthai, Nakai, Nezer, Buni and Todah.
      It is also widely accepted that Jesus is the character called ben Stada in the Talmud.
      Quote: And this they did to Ben Stada in Lydda, and they hung him on the eve of
      Passover …. The husband was Stada, the paramour Pandira … His mother’s
      name was Stada. But his mother was Miriam, a dresser of woman’s hair? As
      they say in Pumbeditha, This woman has been unfaithful (stath-da) to her
      husband. (Sanhedrin 67a)
      In Aramaic, a ‘Dresser of Ladies’ Hair’ is a play on words with ‘Mary Magdalene’.

      ?>>Richard Carrier says:
      No mention is made of any arms being taken (onto the Mount of Olives).

      Has Dr Carrier ever read the New Testament? Jesus ordered swords to be
      purchased in Luke 22:36. They were delivered to Jesus in Luke 22:38. Jesus
      went to the Mount of Olives in Luke 22:39. And those same swords were used
      on the Mount of Olives in 22:50 to cut off an ear. So why does Prof Richard
      Carrier not know of this?

      Richard Carrier says:
      Jesus is not the high priest in any Gospel narrative.

      Yet Hebrews 7 details how and why Jesus became High Priest. The
      explanation is complex, because Jesus was not a Levite and needed an
      excuse, but luckily Hebrews 3:1 and 8:1 give a summary. The first of these
      says: “Consider the Apostle and High Priest of our profession, Christ Jesus”
      That sounds like a High Priest to me.

      Richard Carrier says:
      There is no revolt in the Gospels.

      Yet Mark 15:7 says, quote:
      “And there was one named Barabbas, which lay bound with them that had
      made revolution with him, who had committed murder in the insurrection.”
      In what way is that not a revolution?

      Richard Carrier says:
      Barabbas was the leader of the revolt, not the
      Gospel Jesus. And Barabbas … is not crucified.

      It appears that Richard Carrier does not know that Barabbas was also called
      Jesus; and that the Koran, the Talmud and the Gospel of Barnabas all say
      there was a switch of characters, and so Jesus was not crucified.

      Richard Carrier says:
      The only Jesus the Talmudic rabbis know about died
      before the Romans arrived in Judaea.

      In addition to the quotes already given in Chapter IX, the Jewish
      Encyclopaedia says:
      “the pseudonym ‘Balaam’ is given to Jesus in Sanh. 106b and Gi?. 57a”
      So Jesus is to be found in the Talmud, under the name ‘Yeshu the Nazarene’
      and under the pseudonym ‘Balaam’. Why does Richard Carrier not know of
      this?

      Richard Carrier says:
      The Vulgate Cycle misidentifies Vespasian as the son of Titus.

      If this was not so sad, it would be funny. Here is a professor of history who
      does not know that the Vulgate Cycle has the opposite naming convention
      for the Flavian emperors, to that given by modern scholarship. (Because
      Vespasian and Titus have exactly the same names – Titus Flavius Vespasianus
      Augustus – they can be easily confused). Please see the book King Jesus for
      details.

      Richard Carrier says:
      The Vulgate Cycle (calls) Vespasian a leper rather than the emperor.

      It would appear that Richard Carrier does not know that lepros (a leper)
      refers to someone with scales (of a fish). Thus Vespasian (ie: Titus) was being
      identified as a supporter of Christianity, because the symbol of Christianity was
      and is the fish (the Christian Ichthus).

      Do note that in his latest videos, Carrier does now say that the Talmud mentions the biblical Jesus. However, I never received an apology. I am still ‘insane’ for saying that the Talmud mentions the biblical Jesus.

      Good luck…
      Ralph